China to Bangladesh by road

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Dear All,

I am American citizen and am planning to ride my bicycle down from China to Dhaka and am interested to cross the border from Tibet to India at Nathu La.  Do you know if border guards on the Indian side may allow me to enter if I have a Indian visa already?

 
Is there any services you can offer to insure that I pass through, such as help me get a Nathu la travel permit that I can carry with me? Of course I will pay you for any services offered.
 
Thanks,
Chris
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Dear Chris,
 
Greetings from Darjeeling.
 
I would first like to congratulate you on your trans Himalayan Endeavour for your cycle ride from China to Dhaka.
However, let me inform you none of the Indo-China ( Tibet Autonomous Region ,China ) border trade is yet opened up for tourism flow.The entire chain of border passes from Ladakh to Arunachal in India has been shut down riht from 1962 onwards , from the time time China make a provocative military assault into Indian soil.The military exchange is now not so aggressive but we still do hear military reports of crossovers by military  patrol units into each others territory even today.
 
I have been to the Tibet and know for sure that the roads from Lhasa  connects right to Sikkim border via Gantse and Sigyatse.I can assure you that the roads from the Indian side at Sikkim  is also open right to the international border at Nathu La.
However, entry for foreigners are strictly prohibited by both sides even at a 12 kms radius on either side.
Domestic tourists can go right up to the international fences and even shake hands with the Chinese military( i have infact exchanged currency and  cigars also with them also). Foreign tourist can only go till the Tsongu Lake , 12 kms before the border.
The Lake is 51 kms away from Gangotk ( 3 1/2 hours drive time),the state capital of Sikkim.
 
The Nathu La and Jelep La were two mountain passes which were historically known as the only feasible trade routes in the Indo -Tibet trade prior to 1956.The routes were officially shut down with the onset of the Chinese occupation of Tibet.
 
The governments of both countries have bilaterally agreed to open border trade as of now in a limited scale and it has commenced from 2004 onwards.However, the scale of trade is not what was anticipated by trade analyst and is only basic from both sides.
 
I know all this as i was the researcher for the Sikkim Tibet Border Trade Report.
 
My only suggestion to you is to come via Nepal ( Friendship Bridge) at Tatopani / Khasa  to KAthmandu and then cycle to Kakarbhitta and continue down to Bangladesh.( 32 kms from there).
 
I wish you the very best once again.
 
If you do need any more help or assistance ,please do not hesitate to connect with me.
I am based out of Darjeeling and am in the tourism business.
 

Warmest Himalayan regards, 
Siddarth

 

 

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Dear Siddarth,
Thanks you for your prompt reply. Judging from your response it seems impossible to cross at Nathu La. I guess I need to go the long way through Nepal. 
 
You mentioned that Kakarbhitta is the border crossing between Nepal and India.  Can you tell me what is the border crossing between India to Bangladesh. Do you know if Indian visas are offered at Kakarbhittan and if Bangladeshi visa's are offered at the border.
 
Are both those borders also open to cyclists?
Maybe I will see you in Darjeeling.
 
Best,
Chris
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Dear Chris,
 
Greetings from Darjeeling!!!
 
Please find the information as follows.
 
Route to be followed. 
Kakarvita( Indo Nepal )----Bagdogra------Medical More------Naukaghat--------Fulbari-(Night Halt)-----By pass Jalpaiguri & Maynaguri-------Chengrabandha.( Indo-Bangladesh border).

And visa for India & Bangladesh can be arranged from Indian Consulate, Bangladesh consulate at Kathmandu or from your own country.

Darjeeling and Sikkim offers a mountain biker's paradise with roads heading through hamlets of happiness and mountain streams.If you do come to Darjeeling ,i could suggest some places also.
 
Else you could exit Nepal via Pasupati and then do Darjeeling ,Sikkim and Kalimpong and then cycle down to the same mentioned BAngla border via Chalsa.( + 7 days cycle tour for this stretch minimum).
 
Regards,
Siddarth
 

 

Rajesh Doctor (not verified)
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thanx
but are indian tourist allowed to cross over at nathula and go to china /lhasa if one has the desired travel documents or you have to go via khatmandu or some place else in china
regards

Raj

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Hi Rajesh,
                   Most of passes connecting to Tibet only gets open for trading for few months. Tourists are not allowed to cross over these passes and enter Tibet from India. Even for visiting Lhasa, you need to fly to China and then enter Tibet..

                   Nathula pass, Shipki la etc get open for trading only. The only way reaching Tibet overland is via Nepal.

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Vishnu Kumar

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Thanks a ton Siddarth for providing such a comprehensive update about this route. I also knew that there is no way to enter to India from China by road without entering Nepal.... All the passes on India-China border are closed for tourists... Lhasa- Kathmandu highway is the most popular route among travelers to Himalayas...

I hope this information will be helpful to fellow travelers...

Regards
Vishnu Kumar

Mrs.Nair (not verified)
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Hi Vishnu

Thank you for your prompt response and directing me to this blog..I'v read the info that has been already posted here and its very helpful.However, these are few questions that still remain unresolved..Please help me out with the same...

1- how and where to take permit for Tibet(get it in India or Nepal)
2- how and where to take visa for china (get it in India or Nepal)
3- are Indian nationals allowed to cross Nepal china border via Tibet and travel ahead into china(to Shenzhen for example)
4- how many people are required for group visa
5- what is the difference between group visa cost & tourist visa cost
6- how many days do we get the visa for and what are other implications and conditions
7- if all of the above works out fine,can we hire or drive our own vehicle?
8- can we travel to Nepal-Tibet-china-Tibet-Nepal(round trip on the basis of the permit/visa which is obtained at the begining of our journey, or do we have to get a fresh permit on the way back?
9- which of the following is the best(shortest) route to reach the nepal china border:-
* birgunj -kathmandu-kodari
*birgunj-kodari
*kakarvitta -kathmandu -kodari
*kakarvitta-kodari

Hope to receive your response soon.
Best regards
Mrs. Nair

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Hello Mrs Nair,
                           Sorry for the late response.... Here is my take on the queries..

1) Considering the terms between India and China, I will recommend you to arrange permits before leaving India... Contact Chinese Embassy for more information...
2) Get it in India. I think its tough to get tourist VISA for Tibet.
3) Overland Journey to Tibet is allowed for Foreign nationals but not sure about Indian Nationals. There are of course more restrictions for Indian Nationals.
4) No idea.. please check with embassy.
5) No idea
6) No idea
7) I don't think you will be allowed to take your own transport to cross the border
8) The same permit will define your entire itinerary...there won't be much flexibility to alter it.
9) Kathmandu to Kodari is the most convenient route i guess...

Sorry i could not answer most of the queries but i think these all are subjected to Embassy.... Please contact the Chinese embassy before outlining your itinerary...

Regards
Vishnu Kumar

SUJAL HALDER (not verified)
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I want to go to Kedarnath-Chopta(Tungnath)-Badrinath in the middle of october 2012 with my wife and my son just 8 year. will u pl tell me what is the advantage and disadvantage ?

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Hi Suraj.... Here goes the appropriate forum link for your queries..

http://thinkingparticle.com/forum/best-places-visit-uttarakhand

Regards
Vishnu Kumar

chandrakant rangdal (not verified)
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dear vishnu kumar

i like to compleate manasarovar and kailash darshan to my 62yr old mother and father by own xylo vehicle.

now kindly guide me the way how to comply the procedure to compleate the yatra with my old age mother and father.

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dear chandra kant,

it is not possible for you to take your parents to mansarovar by your own xylo..its better you apply for mansarovar package from ministry of external affairs govt of india on their website

thank you and regards,

yogesh sapkota

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Yes. not possible on your own vehicle. the best way is going through Ministry of external affairs.

Bhim (not verified)
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Hello Mrs. Nair,

If you have not visited Kailash till today, I want to inform you that you can go to Kailash via Kathmandu. You cannot take your vehicle. Visa for Kailash [China] will also arranged by Nepal side. If you want some more info, pls post.

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Thanks Bhim for adding this valuable information.

+- Vishnu

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